Thursday, March 4, 2010

Quite simply, James Ference is not telling the truth about his relationship with Natalie. When they were supposedly married in April 2009, James was married to another woman. He didn't divorce this woman until June 2009 leaving her with a mountain of debt that he helped incur.

April wedding?? No. James was married to someone else in April. James and Natalie lied about their wedding date.  They were actually married in July 2009 after his divorce was finalized.

Link to Jackson County marriage license entry 

http://records.jacksongov.org/docdetail.asp?id=%0BNzmO!uK%03dfI5q!jg1ZA2A3N&ms=0&cabinet=marriage&pg=&id2=y8xNVU!ro%03%0FNtAhOTj5JDA5XQpm!y8yM





47 comments:

Unknown said...

i've been tracking the web of, well, lies around Natalie and James (especially his very checkered past with the courts) - shall we share info? e-mail me at thecuriouspanda at gmail.com

Administrator said...

Sorry Ed. I haven't checked this blog in awhile. Feel free to post links to any information you have.

Administrator said...

If the link doesn't work, try copying and pasting it into your browser.

Chloe said...

So who are you to do this blogg and blast a person? Looking for real names to lean creditability to these allegations? So far all I see is a bunch of no name people ganging up on a single person by name.

Chloe said...

About me is nothing about the editor... Therefore, they have as much creditability as the persons they are blasting down. Unless, the owner of this blog comes out into the open, he or she is a coward.

Curt

Krista555 said...

Hi there What is Coming!--
I'm not the author of this blog,nor did I have anything to do with it's creation, but I will tell you exactly who I am. I am Krista, James' 3rd wife.
You can read about our entire relationship on FreeJinger (I had never heard of freejinger before this blog was sent to me, but after reading people talking about me, I figured I should pipe in and tell my side)... however, I will recap for you.
I am not a bitter ex. Not all. I am VERY happily married with 2 children. I can honestly say that I have forgiven James... but that doesn't mean that I don't think people need to be warned about him. He is a sociopath. Diagnosed sociopath.
All in all, he conned me out of $118,000.00, ruined my credit (that was excellent before he came along), signed up for credit under my name without my knowledge, by his own admission cheated on me with at least 30 prostitutes and had at least 3 affairs (Those are HIS numbers, not mine), had a child with one of his affairs (who he doesn't support at all), and GOT MARRIED while still married to me. I have documented PROOF of everything I claim. I have text messages from him. I have court documents. I speak because I know.

He's dangerous, and people need to be warned about him. Plain and simple.

Krista555 said...

I know that you don't think it's possible that this nice, charming, sweet guy could be this monster.. this con artist. I was in your boat. My family and church was in your boat. We were all conned by him.
But we also all had warning signs. We just chose not to pay attention to them and hope that our suspicions were wrong.
I encourage you to listen to your gut. Has he given you lots of sob stories? Does he talk about what a rough life he's had? Does he talk about how his parents didn't treat him right? In 99% of his stories, does he make himself out to be the victim, while still pretending to take a little blame himself? Does he have financial problems? Is he capable of going out and getting a regular job (like the rest of us), but chooses to run "businesses" instead? Does he give sob stories about his exes? Yep.. I've been there. I've heard it all. I was in your shoes.
Don't trust him. We are not evil people out to get some poor defenseless guy. We are people who are sick of watching him hurt women, families, churches, his OWN 4 children, and get away with it.
He is sick. He needs help. He does NOT need to be married right now. He needs serious psychiatric help.
You'll see in time.
I encourage you to keep your credit cards safe (he stole my parents'), and I encourage you to watch your credit report closely. I also encourage you to NOT go into any business ventures with him.
If you are Chelsea, I encourage you to NOT get pregnant. He has 4 children (that we know of) and doesn't support any of them (including the 2 that you know personally... that's documented in court records. look it up.)

Chloe said...

Warning, warning. The author of this blog has no idea what they are writing. No only speculation as to what hey are writing. As far as Krista555 comments goes... A woman scorn in a very nasty. Mmmmmmmm I hear stories like this every day when I watch divorce court when I was growing up. Again, no proof about anything.

Chloe said...

Krista555, you said, "thats' documented in cort records, look it up." Why, doesn't the burden of proof fall upon you? You are the one who is making the claim; therefore, shouldn't you provide the proof to support those accusation? I thought so.

Administrator said...

To be fair, according to the court records, James has recently begun making child support payments again.

Chloe said...

Oh so someone stands up and ask for proof, you need to share a little truth. I bet that hurt.

Krista555 said...

What is coming-- Do you have any specific questions you'd like me to address? I'd be more than happy to.

Again, not sure if you read what I posted, but no, I am not a scorned, bitter woman. Quite the contrary. I am so happy in my current life. I just simply don't want to see Chelsea become another victim, and she is headed down that road. I tried to warn Natalie, and she unfortunately didn't want to listen either. Now she knows. Wife #2 tried to warn me, and I wouldn't listen.

If you don't want to listen, that's fine. You don't have to. But it's Chelsea that I am concerned for. Genuinely. And I am sure you are concerned for her as well, or you wouldn't be here.

Krista555 said...

What would you specifically like proof of?

Krista555 said...

Hey, What is Coming!, This is Krista's husband, Nathaniel. I am using her's because I don't have a screen name on here. I would just encourage you to heed the warnings you have been given. Even if you don't believe anything that is being said by anyone on here or on the news. Either way it is your choice, but when you are taken for a fool everyone here will be waiting to tell you that they feel your pain. Regardless of whether you believe these things or not there is no need to insult my wife. She is not a women scorned. I have issues from my service to my country, my wife doesn't have any issues. James is a piece of shit and because of the things that he did to my wife and her family I would still like to whoop the piss out of him. I hope that your future is brighter, but there aint no promises. Please refrain from insulting my wife again, because I really don't want to go to jail... Thanks

Chloe said...

So, you failed to see what was coming and so you think it is necessary to trash a person? Sounds like two very bitter people.

I know divorce can be bad. However, it takes two for things not to work. So, what did you do not to make it work?

Typically, women think that they can change a person. Was that what you tried to do and failed? Like I said, you sound like a very bitter person.

I would suggest that you seek professional help, it is apparent that you and many of these people on this blog cannot get past this. Please, get help before your life is consumed with hate.

You are right, I am concerned about Chelsea, the only thing that this blog has been correct about.

It is blogs, emails and "he said, she said" lies that keeps her from being happy. Therefore, if you are truly concerned with her well being. You would have the owner of this blog and dismantle the content and if not, place a retraction of everything on this blog.

Chloe said...

To Krista55 husband. Mmmm you could not tell me that she was not a woman scorned. It sure comes across that way and for you. Boy, I do not even know you and you are threatening me.

Thanks for helping my case that these are nothing more than people peeing into the wind and thinking that it is rain.

Thanks

Krista555 said...

Hi this is Nathaniel again. I am not bitter, when I enlisted in the military I took an oath. That oath was to protect those who couldn't protect themselves. Me needing to see a therapist? If you want to be a fool go right on ahead. When you say a women scorned you take what James did and place some of the blame for his actions on her. You are wrong I don't care what your opinion is it will change in time when he shows his ugly side. I understand that he is very persuasive and believable. I don't hold you at fault because everyone here has been in your shoes except for me that I can speak of personally. My wife isn't a liar or scorned, she doesn't like it when someone cheats on her and steals money from her family and lies constantly. If you don't believe any of this and refuse to research it to see the truth then that is your choice. I can guarantee that this blog isn't going anywhere and nothing is going to be taken off of it, because its true and it is here to try to protect people and keep people from being taken by him. Krista isn't stupid, she didn't marry the guy thinking that she could change him. She married a "good guy" who turned out to be a monster. Honestly you see stories like this on dateline. The only difference between him and those monsters is that he hasn't killed anyone yet. You can think what you want about these people being bitter, but in a short time you will see that they are just protective. They don't want to see his trail of pain and tears continue. I personally am very protective. You can think I am bitter, but I stand for what is right.

Krista555 said...

(Krista here)
I totally understand where you are coming from, I really do.
When James and I met online at the beginning of 2007, I had 3 different people contact me and try to warn me. One was wife #2, and two others were recent ex-fiancees of his (he and wife #2 had only been divorced for a couple months, if that gives you a clue). Anyway, when these 3 women contacted me, my first thought was, "Holy crap! Can we say 'bitter exes'?!" I dismissed everything they said as lies coming from bitterness. I was angry at them. Why? Because I felt they were just trying to encroach on my (at the time) happiness with James. I mean, seriously, who is going to believe an ex of a guy? Really.
So, believe me, I get it. I get that we all come across as bitter and angry, jilted, scorned, etc. I would think the exact same way as you if I were in your shoes.
All I can reiterate is that I am not bitter. I really am not. I post on this site whenever someone sends me a link or tells me that something new came up. Other than that, I really don't give James a passing thought. I have more important things to do.
But, I post comments because #1: My name gets mentioned, or someone says something about "exes" etc., and since I have a big mouth, I have a hard time not responding. And #2: I genuinely hate to see woman after woman get roped into the same mess that I got roped in to.
You're probably thinking "Well, he may have done wrong things in the past, but how can she say that he is the same guy now?" My answer is that he is following the same pattern. He was just with Natalie a short time before Chelsea, and he "married" Chelsea while still married to Natalie. That's the same thing he's done the last 2 marriages. He follows a pattern.
He always moves on to the next woman before the previous relationship has even had time to cool off.
Chelsea is wife #5, his 4th since 2007. Are any of us (his exes) perfect? Well of course not. But I can speak for myself when I say that I have never cheated, I don't lie, and I am not at all abusive. I don't even cuss, and I rarely raise my voice.
Do I do everything perfect all the time? No, noone does. But I did not do anything to deserve being cheated on at least 33 times by James (by his own admission), have thousands of dollars stolen from me, and my parents have money stolen from them. I did not deserve to be married to someone who got another woman pregnant while married to me. And I also didn't deserve to be left with a mountain of debt that he incurred.

If I were a bitter woman, I would've taken him for everything he had in the divorce. But I didn't. In fact, I didn't ask for a single dime, except that he would take some of the debt in his name. Why? Because I love his 2 oldest children, and I didn't want to take food out of their mouths.

Like my husband said, you can take or leave any of the information here. We are not the authors of this blog, we just comment. But, I can assure you that to the best of my personal knowledge (and if you read one of the earlier submissions, James admits that this blog is true), everything on here is true. It's really up to you. Just don't say we didn't warn you.

Chloe said...

So, your oath in the military justifies you to make a public spectacle of yourself. I guess that is ok; however, it was not the oath that I took.

Still does not make what you two are doing right. Oh well, just keep peeing into the wind and thinking that it is rain.

I just think your true personality is showing through. Keep up the good work.

Chloe said...

To Krista55 why do you care. Leave this blog alone and have the owner take it down. Close this chapter in your life and move along.

If you do not... the nightmare that is your life will continue. Right now, I am more concern with your life than anybody else. Seek help and get past this.

Think of your husband and your family. The deserve better than you dwelling on the past.

Take down this blog and start the healing process.

Krista555 said...

I got a spectacle for you. Someone who is so foolish that they have several people trying to keep them from the fire, yet they walk knowingly into it. I do not wish to insult you. Are you not making the same spectacle of yourself "if you want to call it that", by also posting on here? I don't pee into the wind, but I guess you do so have fun pissing on your leg. If you were truely in the military then I think you know what my true personality is, and if you want to go in circles then be my guest. I quit playing raindeer games when I got retired from the Army. Take care and believe what you want to believe.

Krista555 said...

What is Coming!, I didn't start this blog. I don't even know how to start a blog, to be honest, lol

I'm fine, thank you for your concern. I've got a great marriage, great kids, wonderful church, and awesome extended family."the nightmare that is my life"? Hardly. My life is pretty great.

I've said what I needed to say to you. I have said over and over again that my goal in all this is not to seek revenge on James, (there were/are many ways a person could seek revenge and I have not acted on any of them), my goal has always been to warn others. Once I do that, I have done my part. It's up to them whether or not they want to listen or take action to protect themselves.

You'll see the truth eventually. I'm sorry that you can't see it right now. You'll get there.

Good luck to you. Sincerely.

Chloe said...

Come on Krista55 you do not know who owns this blog? You want me to believe that you just randomly came across it and decided to have some fun? Either you are a very scorn divorce woman or a very sick person. I just think you are a very unhappy person and I am sure that you, Natalie, or Chandra know who this blogs belong too. All it would take is one of you asking the owner to take down this blog and I bet that it would be done.

However, let me guess. We are going to play the “I do not know and I cannot do anything about it” game. Well boo hoo, isn’t that convenient. Let me guess, “it is not my fault the owner of the blog, I am a just a simple bystander.” Wow, going to start to play the victim card… “I did not do anything wrong! It was him.” Your true colors are coming across and it coming across as scorn…

But, I will not go there. You have said that you have no idea who this blog belongs too and from your post, I can assume that you have no problem posting too it and helping the owner continue to vent his or her crap. Wow, you are messed up. Take my advice and STOP and seek help. Help me STOP this blog and put everything behind you. That is the only way the healing process can begin.

Do not concern yourself with other. Take care of yourself, your family, your husband. Help me stop this and get the healing process start.

Krista555 said...

Oh I absolutely know who started this blog. I've never pretended not to. And so does James. Just ask him. Ask him about everything. :) I'm sure he'll have some interesting answers.

You're kind of boring me now, because you keep repeating the same things over and over again. We all get it-- you think we're bitter. :::yawn::::
That's cool. Keep living in denial. Keep defending a guy that you have only known a short time. You'll see the truth eventually. I'm sorry that Chelsea is on the path to being hurt, and I'm sorry that you're doing nothing to help her.

I'm done interacting with you on here, because it's getting nowhere. I asked you for specific questions in regard to my experience with James-- you asked me none.
You've been so adamant that we are all just out to get James, that you haven't even paused for one second to think "Hmmm.. what if it is all true? What if James really is a con-man? What if he really is going to hurt Chelsea?"
You're too caught up in defending a guy you barely know. I get it. You're still drinking the James kool-aid. It will pass. It always does.
If you want to ask me specific questions about my experience with James, you have my email.

melissa said...

Krista555 I am so sorry for all that James put you through in the past, though it sounds like you have an absolutely lovely life now! It's more than apparent that 'What is Coming' is probably the newest wife's father. I know that there are links up on this blog that give detailed proof of what you've been trying to warn him about, but do you think maybe you should tell him more of your story? Warning signs and behaviors James is most probably already exhibiting to his new family. I know there's a link to a forum discussion about his marriages and lies but it's a bit long to go through. It's just a shame that James is able to lie and cheat his way through another marriage.

amulbunny's random thoughts said...

If Natalie's divorce from James was not valid till 5 December, how could he marry Chelsea in October? Bigamy anyone????

TeachersPet said...

Well, I can confirm that everything that Krista has said on here is the truth. I too heard it from James. When James emailed me last week to tell me he had married Chelsea my response was "Poor Chelsea." I know what she's in for since I was married to him too.

Dear Curt, (What Is Coming!)

It sounds like you have one of the same problems as James. It's called "putting the burden onto EVERYONE else" to prove something to you. TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY for your role in this and look up the proof, via the supplied links, to verify who and what he is. If you CHOOSE not to take the time to do this then anything that comes after today is on your shoulders too. If you are going to offer up your daughter as a sacrifice to this man then yes, it is your responsibility.

I'm not bitter, anymore. I was at one point but I've had enough time to heal those wounds. Unfortunately, I'm not as lucky as Krista. I still have to have almost daily contact with him because we share children. I try to be cordial but I'm NOT his friend. I try to protect his relationship with his children but they will one day find out who there real father is. And it saddens me that I will have to pick up the pieces of their broken hearts when that day finally comes.

TeachersPet said...

OH! And I don't want this blog to be removed. It needs to stay up so that there is a truthful record of the accounts of James Ference. Just because there are a few people who do not believe it, doesn't mean it isn't true. AND when the pee finally hits you in the face you can look back at these comments and realize how blind you were. Good luck. You're going to need it!

Krista555 said...

Melissa- Hi there. Thanks! :) Thankfully, I was able to put my nightmare with James behind me and fall in love with a real man of integrity (someone I had known since I was a kid), and it's been amazing. He's a little protective (as you could read earlier), but that's just his West Virginia/military roots coming out...hehe

Anyway, in regard to Chelsea's dad-- I know what you're saying.. but he doesn't seem to want to hear it. My entire interaction with him has been like something out of the Twilight Zone. He rambles on about "bitter exes" and seems to put more emphasis on trying to protect a con-artist than he is in trying to protect his own kid. It's weird. I have a 19 year old niece, and I know that her parents would do SOMETHING if she hooked up with a 37 year old guy with a documented history of using, manipulating, conning, stealing, cheating, and not supporting his kids.
It's as if Chelsea's dad thinks that we are out to get Chelsea or his family. Quite the contrary. We are providing a service to them. I sure as heck wish that JFIAL/FreeJinger would've been around when I was first dealing with James. I googled him way back then, but nothing of much interest came up. My warning signs were when his exes and his OWN PARENTS tried to warn me about him. That falls into the category of "what was I thinking?" :)

Anyway, because Chelsea or future victims (churches, pastors, customers, etc) might read this (and we all know there will be victims after Chelsea), I should put out there that any of them are welcome to email me to ask questions about my experience, etc. Natalie contacted me when first finding out the truth about James, and I was able to give her documented evidence of what she suspected. We were also able to compare notes about lies he told, his patterns, his behaviors, etc., and it helped her in her process toward realizing that he needs serious psychiatric help.
I feel for Chelsea, but she's still an adult and it's up to her if she wants to take the HUGE NEON warning signs, or if she wants to believe an admitted compulsive liar.

Krista555 said...

Here is my story, as it was told on FreeJinger, months before Chelsea came into the picture- last February.
http://freejinger.yuku.com/topic/4343/Courtship-stories?page=5#.TwRYoIEzKSo

Krista555 said...

Oh it didn't link. Just copy/paste it into your browser.

Krista555 said...

Oh, I guess I should clarify in case it's not clear, my screenname on FreeJinger is NotVerySnarky and my story begins on page 5 of the thread.

melissa said...

http://kbotkin.com/2011/08/02/sociopaths-and-authoritarian-lifestyles/

Interesting short article about sociopaths and authoritarian lifestyles. This reminds me of what I read on FJ about his relationship with one of his wives.

Curt said...

Are you all still at it? Haven't you all proven yourself as pitiful self-center people that has nothing else to do than to spend your time gossiping?

Really, is this the only outlet that you have? This is such a waste of time and energy. If you would filter half the energy that you spend doing this post into something more productive. You all would lead a happier life.

But hey, that is just me. All that I know is without forgiveness, your anger will eat at you until you are consumed by it and it will then being to affect the people that you love.

Then of course by that time, it too late. If I were you all, I would begin to seek help.

Anonymous said...

LOL. Please a Sociopath? Is that the best that you can come up with. By this profile:

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Half the people in the United States would be considered a sociopath or they would have some type of sociopath tendencies.

Even people on this blog has some of the traits of a sociopath like, Irresponsibility, Poor Behavioral Controls, Lack of Empathy, Incapacity for Love and the list goes on.

Remember, when you point a finger at someone there is always three fingers pointing back at you.

Curt said...

I could never get use to people like those who post on this blog. I have known several friends that went through a bitter divorce and put themselves before their own children. The wife would be so hostile that she would do everything that she could to keep her ex-husband from succeeding?

Why is that? If the father is prevented from doing well; isn’t she also being harmed? Late child support payment, on again, off again insurance protection and the list goes one. Now, if she was wise and let her ex-husband be as successful as he is capable of becoming. Wouldn’t things be better for her and her family?

Greater child support payment, steady healthcare, all the things that a father should supply his children. Sounds like a better plan to an outsider and the best part? You stop obsessing over petty small things and let them go.

What are the first three steps? Forgive; seek help and closing this blog. Only by doing these things will you all be truly happy.

Curt said...

Really? How shallow are you people anyway? Create a thread on YuKu and keep it private so you can trash talk someone without anyone countering your claims? LOL, what a load of C**P.

What really struck me as funny is the picture on the top about the clothes laying their without anyone inside; therefore referring to the rapture. For me, that would lead me to believe that the person who started this thread is a Christian doing a very unchristian act.

Gossiping is one. Another is not being able to forgive? How unchristian like. If I were you, I would be stopping everything that you are doing and ask for forgiveness. But you will not; therefore, if you think that you will be one of those people taken away during the rapture. These unchristian acts will keep you well lit up. If you know what I mean.

What about me? I do not believe in the rapture. Nowhere in the scriptures does it proclaim a rapture, it is just something someone made up. As far as me asking for forgiveness? I do it about 30 or 40 times a day. Before every prayer and after every prayer.

I know my faults, too bad none of you know yours. Again, stop what you are doing and seek God’s help to stop gossiping and the ability to forgive.

Anonymous said...

Curt, you're a whiny little bitch trying to justify the fact that you married your daughter off to a bigamist sociopath who's behind in his child support payments to the four kids he's already got.
No one has to prove anything to you. The evidence is there - you've been pointed to it. You choose not to go look at it, that's your problem.
Bitter? Hell, yes, people are bitter. I'd be bitter, too, if my husband or fiance used me, bankrupted me, broke my heart, and abandoned me - and I'd probably want to prevent him from doing it to anyone else.
Tell you what, Curt - take a break from defending Douchebag James and do some research. Follow some of the links people have provided to you, read the court documents from Missouri and Illinois. If, after doing all that, you STILL THINK James is just a poor wronged flower who's been the target of a bunch of unscrupulous women, then you can go on your merry way, knowing you've done right by your daughter.
Otherwise, shut up. Seriously. You're incoherent, you can't make a logical argument, and you're coming off as a misogynist asshole who won't believe anything a woman says because....well, they're women and inherently untrustworthy.
Poor Chelsea. Not only is she married to James, but she's got this twatwaffle for a father.

Anonymous said...

Curt,
What the hell kind of a father are you anyway? Not only do not try to protect your daughter from this piece of filth she is "married" to but you come on here and defend him? You both are lower than the dog shit one wipes off their shoes.

Administrator said...

Curt said:
"Really? How shallow are you people anyway? Create a thread on YuKu and keep it private so you can trash talk someone without anyone countering your claims? LOL, what a load of C**P."

Anyone can register and post at the yuku board. As a matter of fact, I believe some of the regulars there REALLY would like for you to start posting rebuttals.

Curt said:
"What really struck me as funny is the picture on the top about the clothes laying their without anyone inside; therefore referring to the rapture. For me, that would lead me to believe that the person who started this thread is a Christian doing a very unchristian act."

If you read the FAQ, you will see that what you were led to believe is wrong. The rapture reference is a joke.

Curt said:
"How unchristian like. If I were you, I would be stopping everything that you are doing and ask for forgiveness. But you will not; therefore, if you think that you will be one of those people taken away during the rapture. These unchristian acts will keep you well lit up. If you know what I mean."

Ummmm.... not a christian board. Actually reading what people put on there (and here for that matter) might prevent you from jumping to wrong conclusions.

Anonymous said...

As "James Ference is a liar" said, FreeJinger is not a christian site. There are some christians who post there, but the site is mainly geared toward discussing the dangers of fundamentalism in any religion. Fundamental christianity is often discussed, but that's not the sole focus.
There is a board within the forum specifically for snarking on said fundamentalists, which is where the discussion about James Ference & Natalie Nyquist Ference began at the beginning of 2011.
Examples of fundamentalists that we discuss for you to google would be the Gothards, the Duggars, and the Maxwells.
You have not been prevented from joining, and it is not a "secret" club.

Anonymous said...

I am a friend of one of his victims. I know what he did to her and to her daughter, and my friend is still trying to recover financially. He even stole a guitar from his church and gave it to my friends daughter as a gift. When my friend found out the truth, she of course gave the guitar back to the church.
She is a single mom and years later is still paying on debt that he racked up and refused to pay.
It makes me so sad that he keeps doing this and that noone has been able stop him. I am glad that at least this page is up so that people can be warned.
What goes around comes around.

Anonymous said...

I'm the friend to Anonymous...I wonder who that was and why they didn't tell me about this website.

I would love to see James Ference in jail. I've always wondered if I could get enough women to file a joint lawsuit against him if we could prove criminal charges instead of this sweetheart scam BS he keeps getting away with. What's sad is I posted warnings about him on scam websites, but obviously us women aren't in the habit of looking up our dates to find out if they are con artists or not. Here is my post:

http://www.datingpsychos.com/psycho/James%20David-Ference/9885

http://www.womansavers.com/p_guyDetails.asp?id=15307

Anonymous said...

I am also one of the "ex fiancés" that warned Krista about James. I considered contacting Natalie after I found out he was with her but I knew it wouldn't matter since James is so good at making himself look and smell like roses and makes the woman feel like a million dollars with his lies and BS that every woman wants to hear.

I almost committed suicide because of what he did to me, when he did it (during a sever depression stage and he knew it), and for how much money he took me for. Not only that, but my daughter was 13 at the time and it made her lose a lot of respect for me for what I "allowed" him to do to me.

Krista and Susie, I'm glad to hear you made it through. I somehow did, too. Took me a long time to pay off the debt and wish I had that money to help my daughter with college or get us a new car.

I would love to see James in jail and away from women. If you know of any way we can make that happen, please let me know. Because one of these days, an innocent woman is going to take her life because of the damage he has done to them. I personally have had a really difficult time trusting men ever since. REALLY DIFFICULT.

Anonymous said...

D- I did look his name up, but those websites didnt appear at that time. I think for me, the reason I didn't trust what you were saying, was the method in which you tried to reach me. It was a little....ummm...creepy. Of course hind sight is 20/20, but the only thing I had going on at that time was 2 women warning me about James- one being an ex wife who he was going to court with, and the other being a woman who found and contacted me through sleuthing. It totally made me disregard anything you had to say.
This is the reason why I didn't contact natalie until the crap hit the fan. Theres no reason at all why a woman would believe an ex of the man shes with, know what I mean?
Anyway, I hope you're finding peace. One good thing that came through my ference nightmare is that I came into a closer relationship with my God, and I also saw how strong and resilient I am. I was able to trust again, because I trusted myself enough to know that if I were to be betrayed or hurt again, I could handle it and come out of the other side ok. Thats really what it's about. Theres no guarantee that you'll never be hurt again- it's about knowing that you can be okay in spite of it. The man I am, married to now is an incredible husband and father...but I never wouldve been this happy if I hadn't trusted again. and yes, there is a certain level of forgiveness that has to happen. If you continue to.hate him, then he continues to victimize you.

Anonymous said...

Ps: this is krista in case you hadn't guessed. :) I'm having issues signing in under the other name.

Anonymous said...

Hi, Krista

I'm not sure how else I was supposed to find other than look for you. :-)

All I did was find your sister's name in an email and look her up in the white pages and call her. I should have gone further and brought you evidence and met you. I'm pretty sure I offered it.

It really doesn't matter anyway. He had you where he needed you so nothing I could have said would have mattered. Same with Natalie.

It's not your fault or mine. I'm just glad we both survived.

I still work on trust issues with men. But I'm dating a very trust worthy guy right now and he's been the first I've trusted in a long time.

Here's what i want to know...I'm curious if there would be a chance for all of us to file a class action lawsuit against him or something and have him put behind bars. I still have a whole box of evidence I can use against him. Between S, me, you, N, and I may be able to track down his old friends and another girl he proposed to after me and before you. Just seems like we could get him thrown in jail for being a con. What do you think?